From the Uprising General Notes Pad: Protection & Medicine
Jan 26, 2014 21:18:28 GMT
Post by pragmaticpolymath on Jan 26, 2014 21:18:28 GMT
Back when Screwface Romeo and I were the only ones creating and conceptualizing Uprising, we kept our ideas on a notepad that we shared over the interwubz. Starting out, Screwface had a vision for the series/franchise that I wholly agree upon. So, here is the content that we came up with, at the beginning of it all; which we feel is the foundations on which you all can build.
The red text is what He's conceptualized, and the black is my input. So, here we go!
What’s the body armour made from? You mentioned ceramic plates. Anything else to go by?
And what’s the medical technology like?
Not so up-to-date on armor tech, myself. Definitely thinking ceramic composites, but the actual chemistry is beyond me. If you have ideas, I’m all ears.
Currently, as we both know, Kevlar is the predominant milspec ballistic para-aramid of choice. There are various other ones on the market, such as Spectra, Dyneema, Twaron, etc. Nomex itself, is a flame-resistant meta-aramid, from the same company that gave us Kevlar, which is DuPont.
A variation of Kevlar was recently released, called Kevlar XP and KM2. XP itself is a lighter weight resin, combined with KM2.
KM2, itself, as stated below, does the following:
"DuPont created Kevlar KM2 to achieve the performance goals defined by casualty reduction testing for the Department of Defense. Today it is used extensively for fragmentation protection in the U.S. military. Helmets and vests made with Kevlar KM2 provide enhanced bullet and fragmentation resistance while remaining comfortable and breathable in the most inhospitable climates.
Excellent thermal stability at temperature extremes, water repellency, chemical stability and resistance to petroleum products have made Kevlar KM2 an indispensable asset to the military personnel who use it every day."
"Kevlar KM2 fiber is a transversely isotropic material. Its tensile stress-strain response in the axial direction is linear and elastic until failure. However, the overall deformation in the transverse directions is nonlinear and nonelastic, although it can be treated linearly and elastically in infinitesimal strain range. For a linear, elastic, and transversely isotropic material, five material constants are needed to describe its stress-strain response. In this paper, stress-strain behavior obtained from experiments on a single Kevlar KM2 fiber are presented and discussed. The effects of loading rate and the influence of axial loading on transverse and transverse loading on axial stress-strain responses are also discussed."
Moving along, we have M5 fiber, M5 fiber (polyhydroquinone-diimidazopyridine) is a high-strength synthetic fiber first developed by Dr. Doetze Sikkema] and his team at the Dutch chemical firm Akzo Nobel. Currently, it is being produced by the United States Magellan Systems International LLC.
M5 is stronger than Aramid (Kevlar, Twaron) and UHMWPE (Dyneema, Spectra).
M5 is more fire resistant than meta-Aramid. It is the most fire resistant organic fiber yet developed. It is less brittle than carbon fiber and will yield when stretched.
There is currently talking about utilizing multi-walled carbon nanotubes, for body armour application. 8mm cable of MWCNT, can hold up to 600+ pounds of weight, and has incredible resistance properties, able to resist damage from anything short of a cutting laser, plasma cutter and water cutter. There is a variant of MWCNT that exists known as carbyene, which takes two or more MWCNT and twists them into a bundle. It doubles the strength and resistance properties of MWCNT, is incredibly flexible, and has a hardness twice that of diamond.
Now, ceramic composites. There is a wide range to utilize. Standard body armour makes uses of strike plates made from boron carbide, which has a Mohs of 9.497, it is one of the hardest materials known, behind cubic boron nitride and diamond. When you get up higher on the Mohs scale, you start getting into some pretty damn hard stuff, including tungsten carbide, titanium carbide, silicon carbide, titanium diobride, tungsten disulfide, aggregated diamondoid nanorods, etc.
You pretty much have a wide range of shit to choose for ceramic composites. When you get to those upper echelons, thermal resistance, electrical resistance, etc. tends to increase, or decrease, depending on the materials. The chemistry behind that gets mind-boggling.
Of course, one of the properties to keep in mind is flexibility. Diamond is hard stuff to crack, but if you strike it along stress lines, it will fracture and shatter.
Materials like tungsten disulfide, of which I spoke of before; has immense hardness, but incredible flexibility. It has a high degree of flexibility on a small scale, which lets it endure tremendous force. Titanium carbide has that as well. The possibilities are limitless.
The Carbon Nanotube gig seems pretty good for....
I’ll divide power armor into four layers;
1. Outer Ballistic Shell - This is the heavy armor, designed to absorb most of the damage.
2. Inner Ballistic Shell - an armored bodysuit designed to provide protection where the OBS doesn’t, such as joints and gaps between plates, and serve as a ,mounting system for the OBS
3. Force Amplification Rig - the “Muscle Suit”, provides the extra power to move the armor’s weight, and sometimes to amplify the user’s strength
4. Life Support Rig - Pretty much exactly what it sounds like, as well as managing the user’s interface to their armor
These are going to vary pretty heavily, since power armor can be anything from a light lower body chassis with a plate vest for security personnel in low-sec areas to a Hienlein-style ceramic gorrilla armed with what’s essentially a belt-fed 12.7mm Chemrail and shoulder-mounted Metal Storm rocket launcher. But almost all body armor has all four.
Carbyene looks perfect for the IBS, serving to reinforce weak points and offer some protection where the OBS doesn’t. This would give some leeway for the OBS to use harder substances and compensate by leaving bigger gaps.
Limitless possibilites are good, since we’re talking about resisting an 8x30mm projectile accelerated to velocities that approach 4000 fps in heavy rifles. And Hienlein troopers have to be able to survive a drop from orbit if their pod fails.
Indeed it is. Always consider the possibilities.
Medical Technology is getting to some pretty heady levels of development.
They are using grounded pig’s bladder to regenerate damaged tissue and amputated limbs. The stuff is called Pixy Dust. It’s pretty phenomenal. It’s undergoing testing through the FDA for civilian, law enforcement and military applications.
Then we have organ printing. Using tissue samples from the patient, they can use a 3D printer to make a biocompatible organ, using stem cells and protein scaffolds to grow the organ and tissues, over the course of weeks. They are currently refining the technology, to where they can grow stable organs and tissues within days or hours.
There’s also things called Nanodot Patches, which uses a penny sized dermal patch to deliver drugs over a gradual period of time. They also have variants which are larger, for much more concentrated dosages.
When I was working at FedEx Office, I did a lot of work for the guys at Medtronic. One of the projects that they had me print, collate and bind copies of, was a biodegradable stent, that has specially designed pores in them, along with smaller divisions within them, that would release heart medication and antibiotics gradually over the course of a recovery or treatment. Once the drugs were all gone, the stent would disintegrate harmlessly into the bloodstream. They had a former NASA engineer help design that one.
Cybernetic Interfaces are drastically improving, along with cybernetic prosthesis. It’s not a remote stretch to say we could have the foundations for Deus Ex Human Revolution level prostheses by 2027-2030, judging at the rate at which we are currently developing things and refining them.
Another cool thing that they are working on, is anti-seizure implants, which involves a flexible gel plastic patch that is attached to the brain. The patch has sensors and stents on it, that released not only an electric charge to counteract the seizure, but anti-seizure medication, directly to the source.
I’d love to play around with this shit. One idea I had was medical nanobot packs, which could be plugged into a person’s armor and their AI would release the nanites, chemicals and tissue regeneration aids through the suit’s LSR to wherever they’re needed. Similarly, repair nanobot packs would be used to temporarily plug holes in armor.
The red text is what He's conceptualized, and the black is my input. So, here we go!
What’s the body armour made from? You mentioned ceramic plates. Anything else to go by?
And what’s the medical technology like?
Not so up-to-date on armor tech, myself. Definitely thinking ceramic composites, but the actual chemistry is beyond me. If you have ideas, I’m all ears.
Currently, as we both know, Kevlar is the predominant milspec ballistic para-aramid of choice. There are various other ones on the market, such as Spectra, Dyneema, Twaron, etc. Nomex itself, is a flame-resistant meta-aramid, from the same company that gave us Kevlar, which is DuPont.
A variation of Kevlar was recently released, called Kevlar XP and KM2. XP itself is a lighter weight resin, combined with KM2.
KM2, itself, as stated below, does the following:
"DuPont created Kevlar KM2 to achieve the performance goals defined by casualty reduction testing for the Department of Defense. Today it is used extensively for fragmentation protection in the U.S. military. Helmets and vests made with Kevlar KM2 provide enhanced bullet and fragmentation resistance while remaining comfortable and breathable in the most inhospitable climates.
Excellent thermal stability at temperature extremes, water repellency, chemical stability and resistance to petroleum products have made Kevlar KM2 an indispensable asset to the military personnel who use it every day."
"Kevlar KM2 fiber is a transversely isotropic material. Its tensile stress-strain response in the axial direction is linear and elastic until failure. However, the overall deformation in the transverse directions is nonlinear and nonelastic, although it can be treated linearly and elastically in infinitesimal strain range. For a linear, elastic, and transversely isotropic material, five material constants are needed to describe its stress-strain response. In this paper, stress-strain behavior obtained from experiments on a single Kevlar KM2 fiber are presented and discussed. The effects of loading rate and the influence of axial loading on transverse and transverse loading on axial stress-strain responses are also discussed."
Moving along, we have M5 fiber, M5 fiber (polyhydroquinone-diimidazopyridine) is a high-strength synthetic fiber first developed by Dr. Doetze Sikkema] and his team at the Dutch chemical firm Akzo Nobel. Currently, it is being produced by the United States Magellan Systems International LLC.
M5 is stronger than Aramid (Kevlar, Twaron) and UHMWPE (Dyneema, Spectra).
M5 is more fire resistant than meta-Aramid. It is the most fire resistant organic fiber yet developed. It is less brittle than carbon fiber and will yield when stretched.
There is currently talking about utilizing multi-walled carbon nanotubes, for body armour application. 8mm cable of MWCNT, can hold up to 600+ pounds of weight, and has incredible resistance properties, able to resist damage from anything short of a cutting laser, plasma cutter and water cutter. There is a variant of MWCNT that exists known as carbyene, which takes two or more MWCNT and twists them into a bundle. It doubles the strength and resistance properties of MWCNT, is incredibly flexible, and has a hardness twice that of diamond.
Now, ceramic composites. There is a wide range to utilize. Standard body armour makes uses of strike plates made from boron carbide, which has a Mohs of 9.497, it is one of the hardest materials known, behind cubic boron nitride and diamond. When you get up higher on the Mohs scale, you start getting into some pretty damn hard stuff, including tungsten carbide, titanium carbide, silicon carbide, titanium diobride, tungsten disulfide, aggregated diamondoid nanorods, etc.
You pretty much have a wide range of shit to choose for ceramic composites. When you get to those upper echelons, thermal resistance, electrical resistance, etc. tends to increase, or decrease, depending on the materials. The chemistry behind that gets mind-boggling.
Of course, one of the properties to keep in mind is flexibility. Diamond is hard stuff to crack, but if you strike it along stress lines, it will fracture and shatter.
Materials like tungsten disulfide, of which I spoke of before; has immense hardness, but incredible flexibility. It has a high degree of flexibility on a small scale, which lets it endure tremendous force. Titanium carbide has that as well. The possibilities are limitless.
The Carbon Nanotube gig seems pretty good for....
I’ll divide power armor into four layers;
1. Outer Ballistic Shell - This is the heavy armor, designed to absorb most of the damage.
2. Inner Ballistic Shell - an armored bodysuit designed to provide protection where the OBS doesn’t, such as joints and gaps between plates, and serve as a ,mounting system for the OBS
3. Force Amplification Rig - the “Muscle Suit”, provides the extra power to move the armor’s weight, and sometimes to amplify the user’s strength
4. Life Support Rig - Pretty much exactly what it sounds like, as well as managing the user’s interface to their armor
These are going to vary pretty heavily, since power armor can be anything from a light lower body chassis with a plate vest for security personnel in low-sec areas to a Hienlein-style ceramic gorrilla armed with what’s essentially a belt-fed 12.7mm Chemrail and shoulder-mounted Metal Storm rocket launcher. But almost all body armor has all four.
Carbyene looks perfect for the IBS, serving to reinforce weak points and offer some protection where the OBS doesn’t. This would give some leeway for the OBS to use harder substances and compensate by leaving bigger gaps.
Limitless possibilites are good, since we’re talking about resisting an 8x30mm projectile accelerated to velocities that approach 4000 fps in heavy rifles. And Hienlein troopers have to be able to survive a drop from orbit if their pod fails.
Indeed it is. Always consider the possibilities.
Medical Technology is getting to some pretty heady levels of development.
They are using grounded pig’s bladder to regenerate damaged tissue and amputated limbs. The stuff is called Pixy Dust. It’s pretty phenomenal. It’s undergoing testing through the FDA for civilian, law enforcement and military applications.
Then we have organ printing. Using tissue samples from the patient, they can use a 3D printer to make a biocompatible organ, using stem cells and protein scaffolds to grow the organ and tissues, over the course of weeks. They are currently refining the technology, to where they can grow stable organs and tissues within days or hours.
There’s also things called Nanodot Patches, which uses a penny sized dermal patch to deliver drugs over a gradual period of time. They also have variants which are larger, for much more concentrated dosages.
When I was working at FedEx Office, I did a lot of work for the guys at Medtronic. One of the projects that they had me print, collate and bind copies of, was a biodegradable stent, that has specially designed pores in them, along with smaller divisions within them, that would release heart medication and antibiotics gradually over the course of a recovery or treatment. Once the drugs were all gone, the stent would disintegrate harmlessly into the bloodstream. They had a former NASA engineer help design that one.
Cybernetic Interfaces are drastically improving, along with cybernetic prosthesis. It’s not a remote stretch to say we could have the foundations for Deus Ex Human Revolution level prostheses by 2027-2030, judging at the rate at which we are currently developing things and refining them.
Another cool thing that they are working on, is anti-seizure implants, which involves a flexible gel plastic patch that is attached to the brain. The patch has sensors and stents on it, that released not only an electric charge to counteract the seizure, but anti-seizure medication, directly to the source.
I’d love to play around with this shit. One idea I had was medical nanobot packs, which could be plugged into a person’s armor and their AI would release the nanites, chemicals and tissue regeneration aids through the suit’s LSR to wherever they’re needed. Similarly, repair nanobot packs would be used to temporarily plug holes in armor.